John Vego of Buster’s will lead our tasting tonight, and it’s possible that Philippe Bourgeois of Bourgeois Wines might join us. Sign on at 7 and remember that you’ll have to keep refreshing your browser to be able to see the new comments. See you then!
By the way, we need to decide if we want to hold a tasting on Feb. 14, which is, of course, Valentine’s Day. We can do it on Wednesday that week if everyone prefers, or stick with it on Thursday. Let’s talk about it tonight. Either way, I propose we make the move to something sparkling that week.
Responses to “In Fine tasting”
January 24th, 2008 at 6:58 pm
This is a everyday white from the south of France.The blend is 70% Clairette, 10% Ugni Blanc
10%Grenache and 10 Bourboulene.This is a basic Cotes du Ventoux blend.It gives the winemaker more complexity than he would have with only one grape.Each grape brings something different to the wine.Serving temperture around 43 to 53F.I perfer around 53.It tones down a little of the acidity.
January 24th, 2008 at 6:59 pm
I’m actually HERE and not sitting alone with my wine and my wine notebook! LOL Julie
January 24th, 2008 at 6:59 pm
Kerry, you’re going to need to refresh your browser to see new comments. It’s still a little before 7, so let’s give John a few minutes to sign on and tell us about this wine.
January 24th, 2008 at 7:00 pm
my reflexive response was ummmmm…yummy! there’s a little something figgy in the finish, which i find quite luscious!
January 24th, 2008 at 7:01 pm
Priscilla & I from the Downtown Women’s Wine Club will be tasting tonight. First time participating, look forward to comments.
January 24th, 2008 at 7:01 pm
well, thank you, but it was the TRUTH…I was a doofus…but y’all will get accustomed to that!
January 24th, 2008 at 7:02 pm
Hi John! This wine has certainly opened up since I poured it about 20 minutes ago. Very crisp at first, now it’s a bit fuller.
January 24th, 2008 at 7:03 pm
oh, no, John, I opened early by a few minutes to ensure logging on properly and just took a sip and this wine is to die for…a new fave…and should have had it last year during my taste 50 in my 50th year journey!
January 24th, 2008 at 7:03 pm
I detect a hint of fennel. Did anyone cook the chicken from the blog recipe?
January 24th, 2008 at 7:06 pm
Hello to all - When I first tasted it, it seemed very light and appley.
January 24th, 2008 at 7:06 pm
I get a little floral notes on the nose.Citrus and minerality on the palate
January 24th, 2008 at 7:07 pm
I wouldn’t say it was in my face. I liked it from the first sip–just commenting that it’s changing considerably, something I’ve become much more aware of since we started this group and I’m paying more attention to how the wine starts, changes and finishes.
January 24th, 2008 at 7:08 pm
hey everybody, angela moon here. hey john! great selection! does anyone get orange baby aspirin? i get a dose of it on the nose, and boy this wine is really deceiving, much fuller and rounder than you might expect…
January 24th, 2008 at 7:08 pm
other than the grenache, the other grapes are new to me. I love the light, yet layered (complex) taste and nose. Also, I like it on the warmer side as well….(but I like my chards room temp, too–)
January 24th, 2008 at 7:09 pm
I can see the flora quality in there as well. There is also a fall fruit component, maybe pear.
January 24th, 2008 at 7:10 pm
Now this is what it is all about! We have the correct wine this week and, John, you are a good judge of wine.
Unfortunately, Pam and I have a habit of sipping while either of us cook. By the time dinner was ready we were well into the bottle.
Pam and I think it is bright and clean; I guess that is the acidity, with little or no aftertaste. We plan to buy this wine and keep it on hand.
If we were just looking around a wine store, the label wouldn’t have grabbed us. A very good selection
January 24th, 2008 at 7:12 pm
The clairette is completely new to me, too. When John was telling me about it on the phone, I thought he was talking about a claret and I was completely confused.
January 24th, 2008 at 7:13 pm
just joined in.. had a difficult time finding the wine out east! Thanks to KirbyWines for having it!
January 24th, 2008 at 7:14 pm
Hi Marie. When I first tasted it I thought maybe I was smelling it on my hands, since I made a fennel salad tonight. But now that I took a bite of the salad, I’m more convinced that it’s in the wine.
January 24th, 2008 at 7:14 pm
john-didn’t realize we’re both capricorns and 50! It’s the new 30, they say….well, here’s to you, to me and to all of us gathered here with this oh-most-wonderful-wine!
January 24th, 2008 at 7:15 pm
Almonds? That’s interesting. A few weeks ago Mimmye mentioned pecan hulls and I was intrigued; I don’t usually think of nuttiness in a wine.
January 24th, 2008 at 7:17 pm
I looked up some info about this grape because I was unfamiliar with it as well. I read that the grape generally lacked acidity. Well, I had just taken the first sip and noticed acid right away. I’m glad others taste that too.
Larry says he’s not tasting any of the things you’re mentioning.
January 24th, 2008 at 7:17 pm
marie–I got the apple in the nose at first…when very cold and first poured!
January 24th, 2008 at 7:18 pm
Hello John,
Just need to chime in on the importer. As you know, Bourgeois Family Selections is an import company that was started By Philippe and his wife only about a year ago. He was with a large French import company for 9 years before that. Philippe is French and his wife is from the states. The whole portfolio is made up of wines that are either sustainably farmed, organic or biodynamic. Furthermore, every wine is from a small family producer, not some large faceless juice pump of a wine company!
January 24th, 2008 at 7:20 pm
I made marinade chicken on the grill, while I was sipping the wine and OMG what a taste! I told Dave this is a keeper. Really like the smoothness and no bitter after-taste.Thanks John, great choice!
January 24th, 2008 at 7:20 pm
Larry, I really didn’t taste much of anything at first, but then I’m half convinced that I’m finally getting the cold everyone’s had. After a bit the wine develops, though.
January 24th, 2008 at 7:21 pm
A good compliment–try steamed mussels with white wine, tarragon, shallots, and butter…
January 24th, 2008 at 7:22 pm
We didn’t see the chicken recipe. We made the Fig Tree Shrimp from Alyce’s column about two weeks ago — shrimp with butter, garlic, tarragon, chervil, etc. It’s a good match for the wine.
January 24th, 2008 at 7:23 pm
I attended a wine tasting dinner at the Brushmark last year and the distributor spoke about how many French small family wineries try to keep their independence and own label by using a larger company to bottle the wine, but they distribute it themselves through a collective. I think that’s what was said.
January 24th, 2008 at 7:23 pm
vermouth…that explains the familiarity on the nose to me! This is really an excellent choice…John–you’ve outdone yourself again….
January 24th, 2008 at 7:23 pm
John, did you make the mussels? I can see that tarragon would be beautiful with the wine! It’s herby.
January 24th, 2008 at 7:24 pm
A salmon en papillote is on the menu tomorrow…good thing I bought 2 bottles!
January 24th, 2008 at 7:24 pm
Thanks John, we will have to try the steamed mussels, sounds great. Pam and I are sitting here side-by-side on our laptops enjoying the blog.
January 24th, 2008 at 7:25 pm
Actually, we had Tyler’s mac ‘n cheese……dinner comes later when you have a 16-month old…. ![]()
January 24th, 2008 at 7:25 pm
What does “sustainably farmed” mean? We’re new to this and know absolutely NOTHING.
January 24th, 2008 at 7:26 pm
we have the recipe, just not the time to make it. i’ll have it at the store with me….
January 24th, 2008 at 7:27 pm
I don’t know but I like the concept of small owners, great wines….and if that sustains, then we will ALL be better for it!
January 24th, 2008 at 7:27 pm
Hi Donnie and David–new names here…
John, can you explain organic, biodynamic, sustainable, etc?
January 24th, 2008 at 7:29 pm
pretty complicate to type here. basically they all are no pestisides, herbisides, etc. but each one is at a different level
January 24th, 2008 at 7:29 pm
I really like this wine and appreciate being introduced to something new. I read that clairette is known for a sparkling wine — John, is that in this market?
January 24th, 2008 at 7:29 pm
Hello? Just finished pizza with some friends and there are four kids running around our house?
Hows the wine?
January 24th, 2008 at 7:29 pm
biodynamic is the most extreme form of organic, followed by sustainable, then organic
January 24th, 2008 at 7:30 pm
googled it: vineyards using international standards of sustainable viticulture practices in wine grape production. These practices are based on a score system consisting of basic required practices, prohibited practices and numerous ecological options.
January 24th, 2008 at 7:32 pm
The biodynamic, and stop me, Brett or John, if I’m wrong, is the most extreme. Biodynamic growers employ methods like the lunar cycle and oh, I don’t know, maybe goat’s blood (not really).
Sustainable is mostly old-fashioned farming, and organic means that the grower has to grow on land that hasn’t been treated with any unnatural products for a period of time, or that nothing has been applied to the grapes.
January 24th, 2008 at 7:32 pm
Too bad — thought it might be interesting for Valentine’s Day since Jennifer suggested sparklers.
January 24th, 2008 at 7:34 pm
john, earlier you mentioned the clarietteis is used in making vermouth- is that why it has the evaporates quickly from the tongue description?
January 24th, 2008 at 7:34 pm
Hi guys, sorry for being late…Wow I just got in and already talking biodynamic. That’s heavy ..but I like the wine after it warmed up.
January 24th, 2008 at 7:34 pm
And speaking of Valentine’s Day, has anyone thought about whether you’d like to taste on the Thursday (V-Day) or on the Wednesday?
January 24th, 2008 at 7:35 pm
I guess that’s how long it takes to get home from work when you live so far away, Bill…
January 24th, 2008 at 7:36 pm
well again, i had a “h” of a time finding this wine in bartlett, called dave and told him to pick up a bottle at buster’s and also a bottle for next week.
January 24th, 2008 at 7:36 pm
Jennifer,
you got it. Boidynamic practices are really out there when you first read or hear about them. Benziger in California is a Biodynamic property and a great stop if anyone gets out there. Most of it makes sense, but there is a lot of voodoo as well. Many people who use this practice say I don’t know how it works, but it works!
January 24th, 2008 at 7:37 pm
we are having “greek chicken” with this wine and it pairs quite nicely
January 24th, 2008 at 7:37 pm
jennifer, not goats blood, but manure buried in a goats horn.. Really far out stuff
January 24th, 2008 at 7:38 pm
Not to change the subject, but what food would go well with next week’s wine?
January 24th, 2008 at 7:39 pm
Oh, Robert Dean! Duh. I’ve been racking my brain (my husband’s name is Robert and I knew it wasn’t him!)
Robert will host our tasting next week, folks. He’ll tell us more about his wine toward the end of this session.
January 24th, 2008 at 7:39 pm
We recently moved here from Pennsylvania, which is a state that controls all wine sales through state owned stores. It is quite a revelation to be able to go to a variety of wine stores and find wines we could not even imagine in PA. Thanks Jennifer for starting this blog.
We have a hobby of visiting winerys during our travels. Can anyone recommend any in this area?
January 24th, 2008 at 7:39 pm
John
I should have come to you first to get the wine. Couldn’t fine much out here in north Mphs. But you are right..the nose and the body make it a great match for shell fish
January 24th, 2008 at 7:40 pm
Well, Marie, Robert Dean thinks we should all cook duck next week, but since most of us don’t have access to it, I’ll come up with something else and like last week, either post it tomorrow or over the weekend.
January 24th, 2008 at 7:41 pm
Dave and Pam, tomorrow I’ll email you an article I wrote last summer about Missouri wineries. Truly beautiful country.
January 24th, 2008 at 7:41 pm
Dave & Pam, you might want to look at Missouri. They got a great group of winerys to visit.
January 24th, 2008 at 7:42 pm
David says while generally preferring reds, he likes this white. But, the real test will be how it stands up in 20 degree weather, in our 103 degree hot tub…that’s where we’re headed…we’ll let you know!
January 24th, 2008 at 7:43 pm
Dave and Pam, you may want to fly to California - Frontier has some great fares! ![]()
January 24th, 2008 at 7:44 pm
I am flexible for V’tine’s day either way…couples may have a different priority! Am getting the baby aspirin now, Angela….right at the front of my mouth/nose!
January 24th, 2008 at 7:45 pm
Enh, spelling, schmelling…
Am I one of the few people left who prefer a white wine? Like Angela, roses are my favorite, but honestly, it seems like everyone drinks red and so few people drink white these days.
January 24th, 2008 at 7:45 pm
we haven’t been to the california wineries,but we did visit quite a few in upper New York, the Finger Lakes.
January 24th, 2008 at 7:46 pm
referencing a comment by someone earlier, i did get a big whiff of almonds, almost like marzipan when i first tasted this wine. i love it too that we are tasting from a smaller producer. this importer has a great unoaked chardonnay called drunk rooster, really great and not expensive!
again, great choice john! thanks everybody…see you next week!
p.s. sparklings are my mostest favorite of all!!
January 24th, 2008 at 7:47 pm
I’m often asked “Do you like red or white?” like it’s a yes or no question. There are so many variables!
January 24th, 2008 at 7:47 pm
Pam & Dave–you need to visit CA wineries! Talk to me about setting up private tours…
Jennifer–while she loves reds, my wife typically prefers whites as well…
January 24th, 2008 at 7:48 pm
larry, when someone asks if i like red or white i usually just say YES!
January 24th, 2008 at 7:49 pm
visited Benziger in ‘88 (yes, last century) and loved it…small (then, anyway) and very personal.
If we have hunter’s amongst us, duck could be easily obtained and shared–provided it’s open season somewhere nearby…never can keep up with that!
January 24th, 2008 at 7:50 pm
John I am with you, lets go to the hot tub and drink RED wine…sorry, aI know that there is a lot of people who like white wine, but its 30 degrees out side and I agree with Angelia..almonds and a little bit of herbs in the nose.
January 24th, 2008 at 7:50 pm
Claudia, prefer northern CA–much more rural, not as many tourists (unless you’re in Napa)
January 24th, 2008 at 7:50 pm
I can’t remember! (about the Drunk Rooster) But we definitely should try it!
January 24th, 2008 at 7:50 pm
If you are one who likes red, try the red version of In Fine. It also from the Cote du Ventoux and is produced using a blend of Grenache and Syrah. Very nice!
January 24th, 2008 at 7:50 pm
Gosh, this wine has become so soft that it’s almost–not quite, but almost–lush. Again, I’m amazed at how wine changes over the course of the hour that we do this tasting. I simply don’t pay that much attention otherwise, and I’m enjoying this so much.
January 24th, 2008 at 7:51 pm
Sorry walking friends out the door, who can cook duck next week for the Italian IGT Dogajolo?
January 24th, 2008 at 7:52 pm
If you like to travel to wineries, then you gotta go to Washington state some time. That’s real wine country
January 24th, 2008 at 7:52 pm
Jennifer I am with you I prefer a good white wine, I really enjoy the flavors more than the reds, Dave does prefer reds. So far, this is top on my list.
as for v-day we could always skip it that week, but then it would be like not talking to an old friend. whatever, let us know.
January 24th, 2008 at 7:52 pm
Central California Coast seems to be the new undiscovered grape growing area around San Luis Obispo… an undiscovered area by all means.
January 24th, 2008 at 7:52 pm
Gosh..if we’d known this would be for an hour, we’d have bought TWO bottles!
January 24th, 2008 at 7:53 pm
Jennifer, I love reds in the winter and whites in the summer–OH, except for when I love red zins in the summer and this white in the winter….it’s more about the what’s on the ‘menu’ in toto–
January 24th, 2008 at 7:54 pm
Bring me duck and I’ll cook it. Still, I’ll come up with another recipe for those not blessed with access to duck breast (can’t get home from work and cook a whole duck by 7!)
January 24th, 2008 at 7:56 pm
I was wondering how I’d never heard of Sips!
Ok, Robert, tell us about your wine…
January 24th, 2008 at 7:56 pm
I am getting quite the buzz from this week’s wine…is it stronger than last week’s? Do wines vary in alcohol content, like beer does?
January 24th, 2008 at 7:57 pm
If we need duck, let Mr. Wu at royal Panda do for us. He does the best around. And if we need an unusual sparkling wine for valentine day…how about the Mauzac grape. Makes a neat sparkling wine.
January 24th, 2008 at 7:57 pm
Marie–I’m just going to get the bottle to look for the alcohol content…
January 24th, 2008 at 7:58 pm
Another movie–Babette’s Feast. French subtitles, but an EXCELLENT food/wine movie! Highly recommended
January 24th, 2008 at 7:58 pm
John–thank you for such a lovely choice.
Jennifer–thank you for starting this lovely group.
All the rest of you dear oenophiles–thank you for making this an exceptional hour!
January 24th, 2008 at 7:58 pm
You must have a understanding of Wine Pool parties the “when the going gets weird the weird turn pro” correct Bill.
January 24th, 2008 at 7:58 pm
hey john, how would we get in touch w/you regarding a tour of the calif. wineries?
January 24th, 2008 at 7:59 pm
Larry says alcohol content can range from 7% to about 20% depending on the wine. I read that this grape produces high alcohol wines. This bottle says 14%.
January 24th, 2008 at 7:59 pm
LOVED Babette’s Feast. Wine is 14 percent alcohol, and Bill, that’s not a bad idea–ordering duck instead.
January 24th, 2008 at 8:00 pm
Thanks for this week’s choice… a nice change from the Pinot Gris and Chardonnays we normally have around the house!
January 24th, 2008 at 8:00 pm
14% by volume per the label, which despite having 50 y/o eyes, I can read! LOL
January 24th, 2008 at 8:00 pm
hello everyone, hello John. Hope you are all well and thank you for featuring one of my wine tonight. I would be happy to answer any questions you have.
January 24th, 2008 at 8:00 pm
Robert…I plead a fifth or I plead the fifth. I cannot convict myself….wow this wine has changed Good choice John.
January 24th, 2008 at 8:01 pm
Hello Philippe! sorry i missed you yesterday. everyone loved your wine!
January 24th, 2008 at 8:02 pm
Thanks Jennifer for the vision; thanks john for hosting and everyone else the insight & buzz humor…’til next time!
January 24th, 2008 at 8:02 pm
Hello Philippe, thank you for joining us. We all liked your white wine
January 24th, 2008 at 8:02 pm
Hello, Philippe. Everyone, this is the man who made this wine. He was in town last night for a tasting at The Blue Fish, which I missed, but John talked to him and convinced him to join us.
Philippe, this is normally when we finish but I’m sure folks will want to stay and talk with you for a bit. And thanks for joining us.
January 24th, 2008 at 8:03 pm
Thank you John. Next time, I will be back early April…. Off to France tomorrow. I apologize I do not have the In Fine with me…. how long have you had it open?
January 24th, 2008 at 8:03 pm
I like this wine very much. Philippe, tell us about any other of your wines that are available here. Are they all from the south of France?
January 24th, 2008 at 8:05 pm
okay John, how about arranging a trip to Phillippe’s vineyard rather than Cali? ![]()
January 24th, 2008 at 8:05 pm
We agree about the “buzz”. Pam got quite pie eyed while still cooking. Her chicken came out great; a combo of lemon, honey, olive oil, paprika, seseme oil, a touch of garlic and a few other things thrown in. A Geo. Foreman grill is priceless this time of year.
January 24th, 2008 at 8:06 pm
Phillipe - I very much enjoyed this wine, and I normally am not that crazy about whites. Thank you.
January 24th, 2008 at 8:06 pm
Of course we all want to hear from Philippe, but Robert, don’t sign off without telling us about next week’s wine.
January 24th, 2008 at 8:07 pm
Larry, yes I will list the wines in a minute and John can also help you with this as he has many in his store. Jennifer, the great particularity of this wine is that it has a serious complexity, lenght, and body for only $11/btl. It is a young wine indeed, fruit forward and not suitable for aging too long however…easy drinking, rich and like many wines of the Ventoux: “Vin de Soif” day to day great drinking wine for all your meals.
January 24th, 2008 at 8:08 pm
The folks at Poplar Pike Wines say next week’s selection is one of their best sellers!
January 24th, 2008 at 8:09 pm
Phillippe, where is your winery located and where do you grow your grapes?
January 24th, 2008 at 8:10 pm
Southern France is for sure beautiful and offer a great variety of amazing values for all taste….
January 24th, 2008 at 8:12 pm
Next week’s wine is a 2005 Carpineto Dogajolo. Also about $11 a bottle.
January 24th, 2008 at 8:13 pm
Claudia, I am actually an importer and I represent a portfolio of 30 wineries. Of these, I have one that is mine, Le Drunk Rooster, and I make wine at about 5 others. Drunk Rooster is in the Languedoc, about 20 minutes north east of Beziers. The rest of my books are wines beatifully made by my friends and I feel very privileged to import them here for you.
January 24th, 2008 at 8:14 pm
Jennifer I need to go, the neighbors just walked in the door with a great bottle of Grenache and the kids are going to bed, see you all next week for the Carpineto Dogajolo. Please go see your retalier for next weeks tasting.
January 24th, 2008 at 8:15 pm
Claudia, it is small (the office and cellar) so we are not open to the pucblic for drop by but we can arrange visit in advance.
January 24th, 2008 at 8:17 pm
Good night, Robert. See you next week, and I’ll be in touch tomorrow about recipes for next week.
Claudia, I think you misunderstood because I misrepresented. Philippe, I thought you were the winemaker. I am certain that several of us have tried Drunk Rooster, though.
January 24th, 2008 at 8:17 pm
Everyone, I am going to have to leave. I would be happy to answer any later questions via email at Philippe@bourgeoiswines.com. You may also visit my website at www.bourgeoiswines.com for any information about my wines. Thank you and have a good night. Thank you again John for the feature, see you soon.
January 24th, 2008 at 8:17 pm
Thanks, Philippe, have a safe trip tomorrow and we appreciate your time!
January 24th, 2008 at 8:18 pm
Dinner is calling, we have to go. Philippe, thank you for a wonderful wine, and call me next time before you get in town and we’ll do dinner.
Good night–John and Elisha
January 24th, 2008 at 8:19 pm
Jennifer, this is a great idea! Thanks for making it happen! Look forward to next week.
January 24th, 2008 at 8:19 pm
We’re off to . . . (too also)
See you next week with the 2005 Carpineto Dogajolo.
January 24th, 2008 at 8:19 pm
OK, everyone, we did go over but it was nice. See you next week. Check the blog this weekend for food suggestions, and thanks for your participation. What a lovely time!
January 24th, 2008 at 8:20 pm
Okay, Philppe, say we were to visit France. Do you have an e-mail address so we can set up a visit?
Thanks,
January 24th, 2008 at 8:25 pm
claudia, you are nuts!!! NO taste of almonds for me. Anyway, this was really an enjoyable evening. and a really great wine! Thanks Jennifer for getting this going and John for a geat selection and Philippe for the wine. Good night! Have a safe and happy weekend!
January 24th, 2008 at 10:22 pm
Holy moly, what a tasting this was! I’m really sorry that i couldn’t participate tonight. Sounds as if you all had too much fun….. oh well, another night.



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